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dgowey
07-26-2002, 01:27 PM
I've just received a run of PCB's where about half of them have a defective soldermask. The PCB surface has a green/copper striped appearance with the stripes being about 1/16" wide (like brush marks). Soldermask does appear to cover the whole board, but varies in thickness. Has anyone else encountered this and is it something to worry about or just an appearance defect?
I have one question about the board finish. Was it plated with Immersion White Tin (IWT)?
The reason I ask this is because Hallmark Circuits was having the same problem with a new Immersion White Tin line. They said that it was too harsh on the solder mask because the tin is a hard metal. They had the Immersion White Tin line removed and they replaced it with an Immersion Silver (IAg) line and that has worked out much better.
The Immersion White Tin boards with the scrape marks on the solder mask worked OK but it looked ugly.
dgowey
07-29-2002, 08:37 AM
Thanks for responding, Tom.
The plating is HASL (not IWT) with LPI soldermask.
It's nothing new or unusual for us - same board house that we've used for years.
I tend to think this is just a cosmetic defect, but just looking for other opinions.
I think your boards will work fine as long as the brush marks are surface marks and do not pierce the solder mask.
I personally have never seen a board with your description, but it sounds like a cosmetic problem that will not affect functionality.
It's always nice to know who the manufacturer is (you could have mentioned their name) so we can pin down comparative results coming from a specific vendor. Then we could dissect it into machinery problems or human error.
dgowey
07-29-2002, 09:18 AM
For those interested, the manufacturer is Circuit Services World Wide in Bellevue, WA.
I should mention that we have used them for years and have rarely had problems with workmanship or delivery.
I am planning to bring this to their attention to figure out what happened and to (hopefully) prevent it from happening again in the future.
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Lameris
11-06-2002, 10:08 AM
Personally, if consistantly you don't have a problem, I wouldn't mention your vendor name. One potential issue, that you haven't even fully discussed with them yet, out of lots of good boards doesn't make them a bad supplier.
Gary,
I absolutely agree that one batch of bad boards does not make a manufacturer a bad supplier. But, when you mention the manufacturers name so everyone can see, other people might be experiencing the same exact defect as the one mentioned from the same supplier.
In today's complex web of technology with acquisitions taking place regularly and plant closures happening everywhere it's nice to know what's going on. Statements like "I've been using this manufacturer for 4 years with no problems and all the sudden I got a bad batch of bad boards" That doesn't tell us anything that we can relate to or accurately respond to.
Mentioning a manufacturers name should not be a negative statement, but rather "Is anyone else using this manufacturer having a similar problem?”
Good manufacturers of the past can quickly become bad manufacturers by change of ownership, employees, management or whatever. This process happens rather quickly and we only help ourselves by pointing these issues out in a constructive way (not a negative way). I like to know what's happening out there in the world. We help each other that way.
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