Combine Assembly Drawing CAM outputs?

[cadpro2k]

Hi all,
I know there's a way, but I'm stumped...

Got a board that I'm trying to create the assembly drawing for. I want the board to be at 4X size on the Bsize assembly format. How do I set the board layers to 4x output; and the Bsize format at 1:1 output; and have CAM create the Assembly Drawing correctly?

I've done it before at a prior company, and know it can be done. At least we did it with gerber files. I'm trying to create the customized .pdf files.

Anyone?
Thanks in advance.
Mitch

[Skip Yutkus]

Mitch,

Maybe I'm a little bit daft, but I really don't understand why people think the various paper sizes need to be adhered to - "A" "B" "C" etc., personally I would scale the border to fit the board - it's going to be printed to "fit" whatever paper, or PDF size you want - that pretty much makes the border size irrelevant.

Skip

[cadpro2k]

Hi Skip,

Here they like to have either B or D size drawings (standard), and they scale up the board to "fit". I'm trying to shortcut the 'departmental structure' and NOT have it submitted to Drafting. PADS isn't like allegro, so I can't clipboard/out-in...

Darn! I know there's a way.

Mitch

[randychase]

Use the BSize format first at 1:4 scale. Then CAM out all at 4:1

[cadpro2k]

Randy, how do I combine the two "types" onto one .pdf file? If I create the two document files, one at 1:4 and the assembly at 4:1, how do I get CAM to create the one final .pdf for me? I still haven't found a way. ls it possible?

I can make the two document settings, and preview them combined, I just can't get them to combine during output.

Mitch

[Skip Yutkus]

Mitch,

I think Randy is saying scale the border using the scale command then plot the board with the border at 4:1 scale in the plot scale box.

Skip

[randychase]

Cam is a bit limited in what it can do. It seems to me that in order to do what you want, you would have already combined the 2D format onto the PCB and scaled it so that when you plot/CAM out, you are using one scale factor.

One thing we try to always stay true to in the drafting/design world. Design and draw at 1:1, always. Does not matter if you are drawing IC dies or the solar system. Then scale the format and output to match the paper.

[Skip Yutkus]

I still stand by my thinking that the "electronic" paper size is irrelevant - do everything to scale - scale the format and notes - then print to fit.

Skip

[randychase]

I still stand by my thinking that the "electronic" paper size is irrelevant - do everything to scale - scale the format and notes - then print to fit.

Skip

Agreed, that is what I am saying. The old days we scaled things to fit paper. Now paper scale is only relevant when it is printed, otherwise it can be anything.

[AllyAshantiBrown]

. The latter two verifications can be combined into a analysis “Stream”, ... Using the same intelligent design data that CAM outputs were generated ... with other drawing elements to create detailed fabrication,

[jannypan]

I would scale the border to fit the board - it's going to be printed to "fit" whatever paper, or PDF size you want - that pretty much makes the border size irrelevant.