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Tom Frayda
02-06-2002, 10:24 AM
Dedicate a layer in PADS to the Pro/E Shape and create the shape in every decal. The shape should represent the maximum dimensions of the component and must be created as a closed polygon, not a path (although the polygon tool should work, I recommend using the rectangle or circle tool and then splitting, mitering, or stretching the shape as necessary). There can be only one shape on this layer and it must be a closed polygon.

In PADS, Edit=>Attribute Dictionary =>Geometry.Height=>Properties and verify that Measure is selected under Types and is set to ()Size/Dimension. Verify that Part Type is selected on the Objects tab and that it is set as ECO registered. Each component must be assigned the Geometry.Height attribute (preferably as a PADS Part Type level attribute) and given a value and units that represent that maximum height of the component (ie: Geometry.Height = 2.52MM).

All decals in the design should have the Pro/E Shape defined and all Part Types should have the Geometry.Height attribute and value assigned. It is also a good idea to correctly assign a value for the pcb thickness in Setup=>Layer Definition=>Thickness.

From PADS, choose File=>Export=>Save As Type=IDF Files (*.emn, *.emp)=>Save. Select the Shape Layer that contains the Pro/E shape and click OK. If you are prompted to enter a height for any component, that component is missing the Geometry.Height attribute. If you see a message in the report file about a "pick box shape" being used, that component has a bad Pro/E shape in the decal and the extruded outline will not be accurate.

For Pro/Engineer, create or edit the text file config.pro to add the following lines:

ECAD_EXP_BOTH_TWO_AREAS YES
ECAD_BOARD_CSYS_DEF_NAME ECAD_DEFAULT
ECAD_COMP_CSYS_DEF_NAME ECAD_DEFAULT
ECAD_IMPORT_HOLES_AS_FEATURES YES

This prevents being prompted for the Coordinate System for each component. The config.pro file should reside in the \loadpoint(ie: proe2000i)\text folder.

Set the Pro/E working directory and move the *.emn and *.emp files created by PADS into that directory.

In Pro/E:

File=>Import=>Create New Model, select the *.emn file, and OK.
File=>New=>Assembly
Component=>Assemble=>In Session
Select the *.prt file created from the imported *.emn file and Open
File=>Import=>Append To Model, select the *.emn file (again), and OK.
Import Type=>Done
Select the *.emp file and Open.


You can now make checks or changes in Pro/E and then choose Export=>Model=>ECAD and send it back to PADS. When imported into PADS, traces that were connected to a component that was moved in Pro/E are disconnected at the first tack (or maybe corner) to minimize routing disruption.


PROS: Easy way to pass rudimentary 3D info without having to know Pro/E.

CONS: Shapes are extruded to one height only and therefore do not allow for accurate interference checking.



I think this pretty well covers it. I'll post what I know about the 3D Model Mapping Method soon.


+Tom

julimills
05-06-2002, 11:46 AM
Well, that handles the Pro-E translation, but it still doesn't help with the AutoCad shading/solid issue. Thanks anyway.

randychase
05-06-2002, 11:56 AM
Yeah, I gave up on AutoCad shading/solid a long time ago, so I can't help you there. Back then (it may have improved a lot), shading was done I think each time and then you could output the image. Not sure now.

I switched to Solidworks and Truespace for handling 3D images.

petehouwen
05-06-2002, 12:17 PM
Julie,

I will get back to you shortly with more info on handling this in AutoCAD, I'm just real busy right now (aren't we all?)

Randy,

I may also be getting back to you on this. We just signed a req for Solidworks, to replace our ProE and eventually AutoCAD. I might need some tips on CircuitWorks. (does it REALLY work?)

Steve Rhoton
11-24-2003, 12:17 PM
Randy, seeing the thread with the info on solid works. Is there anything you can offer me for a primer into the PADS to Solid Works world. So far I've summized that there needs to be a dedicated layer, ie; Layer_25, Assembly Top, etc. and that the outline of the component needs to be a closed polygon, this along with the geometry height on this same layer. But these are input info for ProE, ACAD. And we need to have more certainy for our clientel. Thanks

Lameris
11-26-2003, 12:10 PM
Time to just do it Steve, it's not that hard.

Steve Rhoton
11-26-2003, 12:22 PM
Trying to get a feel for the waters. Mainly trying to make sure all the documentation we are giving our Design Team is as accurate and current as possible...... Other than that, wer'e doing it.........

FYI, in my researching this issue on line, has given way to information that our Mechanical Team was not aware of as they are attempting to interface with our team. The Solid Works people seemed to have left out a portion of the training in thier behalf having to do with issue.........