Pwrlogic To Viewlogic

[BPOWERS]

been using padslogic and padspower since it has started.There has been talk arond the pc forums that logic may be going away sometime in the future.Anyone know if and when? also would it be a good idea to go from tranfer from padslogic to viewlogic to get ahead of the game..Viewlogic does seem to have alot better features...Would like a few opinions thanks in advance..

[randychase]

There are NO plans to obsolete PowerLogic though further development may focus on ViewDraw/DxDesigner.

Logic is not going away.

[Lameris]

A free translator was announced at MUG 2003 to translate PowerLogic designs to Viewdraw.

I am not sure of when it is scheduled to be released. Sometime soon I think.

[jpgeorge]

I use both. A translator would be nice, but does it create library parts fo you?

The only advantages to Viewdraw are:
Text based files.
Easy Mirroring.
Easy Bus/Net copying.

That being said, it is very easy to lose information between VD and PowerPCB. I have had ZERO problems with the PowerLogic to PowerPCB synchronization. It is like Netscape. They will keep it around with the intent of killing it.

[Dick Belanger]

>I use both. A translator would be nice, but does it create library parts fo you?

The translator does create library parts for you, either from your input libraries or from the parts in your schematics, or both, as you specify.

Dick

[jpgeorge]

Ah, but is there something that translates from ViewDraw to PowerLogic?

I would rather use an old unupdated version of PowerLogic, than the newest version of DXesigner. I cannot have confidence in a design system that updates parts without asking.

[Dick Belanger]

> Ah, but is there something that translates from ViewDraw to PowerLogic?

Not to my knowledge.

Dick

[Lameris]

Originally posted by jpgeorge
Ah, but is there something that translates from ViewDraw to PowerLogic?

I would rather use an old unupdated version of PowerLogic, than the newest version of DXesigner. I cannot have confidence in a design system that updates parts without asking.

Uh, what are you talking about? Viewdraw (ePD2+) can update parts, but it has a time date stamp and an indicator on symbols that are out of date. PowerPCB is the one that doesn't indicate when parts need updating...

[jpgeorge]

We keep our libraries on a network drive. If you do not keep the part that was used to create a design in the "sym" folder, then any moved pins can cause havoc on a high density page. PowerLogic only does this update if you request it.

Another benefit to PowerLogic is that it is stand alone. If you have no library, the design will still open. In fact you can extract the parts from Powerlogic to recreate a lost library.

From what I have gathered, Engineers like ViewDraw. That is why it is more popular. Powerlogic is a MUCH better production tool. I have used Orcad, PowerLogic, Protel99 and ViewDraw. Protel was the WORST.

[Lameris]

OK, I understand now.

At least with the current version of Viewdraw, it gives you a warning something has changed...

You need to vote on the user group enhancements! Your experience in different packages would be most useful!

Get the ballet at
http://groups.yahoo.com/groups/innoveda_users/files/2003_Viewdraw_Wish_List_Top_10.zip

#22 and 77 might be of interest to you...

[cyberstace]

Our software vendor gave us DXdesigner/Viewdraw to evaluate as PowerLogic is not going to be developed anymore.
Not one of our company's 20+ engineers had a good think to say about it; some of them already use a version of viewdraw for FPGA's.

Our company currently has around 1600+ schematics drawn in PowerLogic and from what we have seen of the translator software, I have no faith in it at all.

We only recently purchased another 2 licenses of Powerlogic and feel very annoyed to find out its fate after the purchase.

When originally purchased, schematic and PCB software were a great team and worked well together.
DXdesigner? Third party software being tweaked to marry with PowerPCB. Looks like a future of more bugs, patches, fixes, calls to support and more training! Also more cost on all those little plug in modules, like DXmanager etc.

Our company will continue to PowerLogic/PCB in the current version 5.01 for many years to come. It’s not perfect but it is more desirable to Mentor’s offering.

Bearing in mind Mentor's so called roadmap would cost us a fortune in re-training and re-structure of our company system. A decision was made to drop maintenance on not only PowerLogic, but PowerPCB as well.

Comment welcome.

Mike Stacey

[trtilton]

Hi,

I have worked with Logic, EPD, and the new translater. I worked for Viewlogic/Innoveda/Mentor, and have been doing my own consulting for the last year or so.

1. the translater has been reliable in all my work
- over 15K of symbols a mix of ORCAD and Logic
- over 100 design sheets a mix of ORCAD and Logic

2. Translators for EPD to Logic have issues since EDP supports functions that are not present in Logic

3. Is EPD hard to use, well compared to Logic yes, and if Logic does all you need go with it I have advised some of my accounts to stay with Logic till they need to move. When you need functions not in Logic then move up to EPD.

-- Just be happy your not an ORCAD user being push to move to Concept --